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This obviously converges but the ratio test is inconclusive, so how would you justify it

Check your calculations, the ratio test is conclusive. (The ratio tends to exp(-1).)
 

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Oh bad example. My fault.



Nevermind. For starters I memorised his question wrong. My friend asked me about this one which was easy:

It goes to 1/2. But then I started wondering if similar forms tended to 1. I forgot that 1^k=1 here and thus the ratio test wouldn't be necessary for say, k/1^k
 

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On this topic, a good exercise for your intuition is trying to prove that the ratio test is strictly weaker than the root test.

I.e. let x_n be a given positive sequence.

a) Show that if the ratio test asserts that the sum of x_n is convergent, then the root test does too.

b) Show (by way of example) that there exist sequences x_n such that the root test tells you that the sum of x_n is convergent, but the ratio test is inconclusive.
 

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Could you use something like this?

Huh?

Can you elaborate on what you are trying to do by splitting the sum in this way?

This is not a straightforward application of the p-test, because of the presence of the factorial and also because the exponent is not fixed. It is a basic application of the ratio test though. (As questions involving factorials often will be).
 

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Because say we swap the rows, then the determinant becomes +2. But it still "looks like" a Jacobian.

 

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Because say we swap the rows, then the determinant becomes +2. But it still "looks like" a Jacobian.

According to a quick evaluation in Mathematica, the two integrals provided above have opposite signs.

Not to be of any disrespect, but I question the process your tutor used.
 

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Only adds to confusion really because I wouldn't know where the mistake is.
 

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Only adds to confusion really because I wouldn't know where the mistake is.
I believe we multiply by the absolute value of the Jacobian in a change of variable substitution.
Btw, when did we learn this change of variable substitition in 1251? Didn't see any questions on it.
 

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I believe we multiply by the absolute value of the Jacobian in a change of variable substitution.
Btw, when did we learn this change of variable substitition in 1251? Didn't see any questions on it.
I legit did not know that about the abs. value


Also, this was Q124 of the calculus pack. And yes we had a lecture on Jacobians; I think it was the second last one.
 

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There is an absolute value in the change of variables for the Jacobian because of the subtle issue of orientation.

When we write something like



for S a subset of R^n and f: S -> R, this is an unoriented notion of integration. (Because S is a subset, without choice of orientation specified. (*))

Compare this to the integral



which is the integral of f along the oriented line segment from a to b in R.

In particular, if f is non-negative, the first notion of integration will always be non-negative, whilst the second need not be (if a > b ).


(*) This is the same as the oriented integration over S such that the canonical basis in R^n is positively oriented. The situation gets a bit more interesting when we are learning to integrate things on manifolds (surfaces, etc), because these need not be orientable in general! (Think mobius strip.)
 

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I legit did not know that about the abs. value


Also, this was Q124 of the calculus pack. And yes we had a lecture on Jacobians; I think it was the second last one.
lol it depends on the lecturer, mine always called them Yacobians
 

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This is a set of equations I got from using the Lagrange multiplier theorem. What would be a quick way of solving them?

 

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I want to use the alternating series test to show that this is conditionally convergent (it already fails absolute convergence). It's clear that the relevant terms will be positive and I can prove that they limit off to 0, but how do I prove that

 

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I want to use the alternating series test to show that this is conditionally convergent (it already fails absolute convergence). It's clear that the relevant terms will be positive and I can prove that they limit off to 0, but how do I prove that

The sequence is strictly less than n-n

I guess you could work on that instead.
 

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I want to use the alternating series test to show that this is conditionally convergent (it already fails absolute convergence). It's clear that the relevant terms will be positive and I can prove that they limit off to 0, but how do I prove that

It's decreasing because the denominator is increasing. The denominator is increasing because

(n+1)^{(n+1) + 1/(n+1)} > n^{(n+1) + 1/(n+1)} (*)

> n^{n + 1/n} (**).

Note (*) follows since the function x^{(c+1) + 1/(c+1)} is increasing on the positive reals for any given positive integer c, and (**) follows because the function c^{x} is increasing on the positive reals for any given c large enough, and since (n+1) + 1/(n+1) > n + 1/n for all n.
 

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