EXPONENTIAL CURVE SKETCHING QUESTION (1 Viewer)

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For the curve,


find any stationary points, determine their nature and sketch the curve.

I found the derivative as


But I can't solve it for x when y' = 0 to find the stationary points.

HELP PLEASE.
 

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Derivative is 2xe^x^2 -2 not the one you found.

d/dx (e^x^2) = 2xe^x^2
 

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where did u get this question from? when finding stationary points, you are left with the equation x^2=-ln(x) and solving this is beyond the scope of mathematics
 

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where did u get this question from? when finding stationary points, you are left with the equation x^2=-ln(x) and solving this is beyond the scope of mathematics
What are you doing?

All you have to do is let the derivative = 0, find what x is, get the y-value and test for stat pt which gives you a minimum.
 

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What are you doing?

All you have to do is let the derivative = 0, find what x is, get the y-value and test for stat pt which gives you a minimum.
This is what he was doing.

And solving it cannot be done by elementary methods.
 

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This is what he was doing.

And solving it cannot be done by elementary methods.
Aren't you able to do this:

2x(e^x^2)= 0, where e^x^2 =/= 0, and 2x = 0 where x=0 then just move on normally?
 

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The negative 2? During which step?

Because all im basically doing is solving 2x=0 and then just doing the normal stuff for an SP
 

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barbernator's method was right. You can't go any further.
 

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The negative 2? During which step?

Because all im basically doing is solving 2x=0 and then just doing the normal stuff for an SP
You're finding when 2x(e^x^2) = 0

But the derivative is 2x(e^x^2) - 2 = 0
 

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Ohh I missed -2x... =.=

My fault, my fault.
 

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thanks for the help,
but what is the x value then found to be?
approximately x=0.65, but you don't have to know this. It is beyond the scope of all HSC mathematics courses and the textbook shouldn't have that question
 

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