Stuff the icj and anyone who stands by it (1 Viewer)

[nsw..wollongong]

i was posting replies to wollongong as a joke
because we have beef for some reason

huh... seems one-sided if i don't know abt this whats going on

 

[cosmo 2]

major dramas in bankstown tonite

 

[totally_screwed]

lolcti mentioned it already but this isn't the first time the Palestine/Israel discussion had Sylvia's disgusting input, in 2021 the same thread with the same premise went down on bos and it only got locked after he started spamming pictures of dead Palestinians which is incredibly tasteless, insensitive, rude and downright tone deaf. back then there was no october 7 to keep yapping about so naturally there was probably some other trigger he was obsessed with, and he was saying the same shit 2021 version. it's so bizarre how he claims he isn't a zionist because there's no in between you either support and condone the genocide that's apparently needed for Israel to establish itself, or you don't support it. he falls in the former and always has

 

[jimmysmith560]

major dramas in bankstown tonite

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Good to see Maram is still active.

 

[its_ace21]

sylvia supports the genocide of the palestineans because most of them are muslim/theyre arab but still half of bos wants to worship him

 

[totally_screwed]

sylvia supports the genocide of the palestineans because most of them are muslim/theyre arab but still half of bos wants to worship him

it's ok his holy presence is no longer with us

 

[cosmo 2]

unban him wtf

 

[johnnnCENAAAA]

unban him wtf

now im so done with caring
what you think no i wont hide
you hoe

 

[johnnnCENAAAA]

break up witcho girlfriendddd yuhyuh cus im boooreddd

 

[idkkdi]

lolcti mentioned it already but this isn't the first time the Palestine/Israel discussion had Sylvia's disgusting input, in 2021 the same thread with the same premise went down on bos and it only got locked after he started spamming pictures of dead Palestinians which is incredibly tasteless, insensitive, rude and downright tone deaf. back then there was no october 7 to keep yapping about so naturally there was probably some other trigger he was obsessed with, and he was saying the same shit 2021 version. it's so bizarre how he claims he isn't a zionist because there's no in between you either support and condone the genocide that's apparently needed for Israel to establish itself, or you don't support it. he falls in the former and always has

i would like israel to wipe out palestine and then iran to wipe out israel and then also wipe out saudi arabia and the other arab gulf states

and then end the islamic republic and revive zoroastrianism as the state religion of the new kingdom of greater persia

inshallah

not disagreeing with disliking this guy but he seems like an islamophobe and not a zionist. hes also stated respect for the ‘h-man’. i dont think zionists would claim him

 

[totally_screwed]

not disagreeing with disliking this guy but he seems like an islamophobe and not a zionist. hes also stated respect for the ‘h-man’. i dont think zionists would claim him

imo by extension he's a zionist
it's been raised to his attention a million times that there are Christian and other faith palestinians that are being equally as ethnically cleansed as the muslims, there are also queer palestinians but sylvia only yaps about how terrible and homophobic muslims are, like that's got anything to do with the issue, so yeah he's definitely Islamophobic but he doesn't defend the other faiths and minority groups within Palestine facing genocide either. seems like he's overall in favour of Israel's establishment on stolen land

 

[cosmo 2]

i dont like jews

 

[harperissleepy]

i dont like jews

oh...

 

[gammahydroxybutyrate]

“The court did not order a ceasefire, but effectively put Israel on notice over the war.”

The ICJ is the most toothless weapon I’ve ever seen, anyone who says that human rights are not applied selectively are blind. So much for ppl on bos defending Israel for its right to self defence, where r u guys now??

The ICJ is toothless because of State sovereignty. Every nation has the right to govern its own affairs free from foreign influence; there's no real pragmatic approach to the enforcement of international law outside of non-coercive sanctions and declarations. Different nations have different cultural, sociopolitical and moral frameworks; no matter how egregious or morally bankrupt we consider conduct, there's no objective measure of morality so as to conclusive determine international legality outside of countries consensually binding themselves to common standards. The principle goes both ways. In a system where sovereignty is accepted as paramount, interference with foreign affairs via force or coercion is theoretically minimised as opposed to providing a legal greenlight for any first world nation to interfere with military force upon breaches of human rights. Australia has a pretty abhorrent human rights track record itself.

 

[nsw..wollongong]

there's no objective measure of morality

i think its pretty objective that killing babies, sexually assaulting hostages and blocking humanitarian aid is not humane, regardless of what "cultural framework" you endorse in

 

[gammahydroxybutyrate]

i think its pretty objective that killing babies, sexually assaulting hostages and blocking humanitarian aid is not humane, regardless of what "cultural framework" you endorse in

Yes, this statement is correct. It also divorces that point from all of the legal complexities that a "lack of objectivity" is conditional on. International law is primarily concerned with disputes between State actors. At what point can you attribute conduct to that of a State, and simultaneously be able to prove it to a criminal standard of beyond a reasonable doubt? Who exactly is sexually assaulting hostages and blocking humanitarian aid? Did the "State" order the conduct? I doubt you will find many situations where the exact course of conduct is sanctioned by some Head of State; analogously, at what point do we attribute corrupt conduct of an Australian Minister to the conduct of Australia as a State? There will be differing opinions from different backgrounds and legal systems as to where liability should start.

Individual criminal responsibility is a matter for the State whose jurisdiction the crime is committed in, first and foremost. This is also conditional upon the statutory criteria of the offence. If the elements of criminal offences aren't even uniform across Australian States, how do you expect to synthesise an agreeable criminal standard across hundreds of nation states? Sexual assault laws differ widely across jurisdictions; of course an individual can make a value judgment and discern it's morally reprehensible. But what do you want to do about it? International law is compromise of practicality and is often a case of "this is the best we can do". Should we start sending in the UN Peacekeeping force each time a principal convention is violated? (Aside from the fact you'll never get past the Security Council veto) Are we sending in those forces as soon as a foreign citizen is assaulted? Are we waiting for an exact quota of X people being harmed before intervention occurs? If it was that simple to establish an agreed upon and enforceable standard of international conduct, it would have been done already, particularly in the time-frame after the abolition of the League of Nations and historical context of WWII.

 

[SylviaB]

imo by extension he's a zionist
it's been raised to his attention a million times that there are Christian and other faith palestinians that are being equally as ethnically cleansed as the muslims, there are also queer palestinians but sylvia only yaps about how terrible and homophobic muslims are, like that's got anything to do with the issue, so yeah he's definitely Islamophobic but he doesn't defend the other faiths and minority groups within Palestine facing genocide either. seems like he's overall in favour of Israel's establishment on stolen land

what part of "I want Iran to conquer the entire levant and establish a neo-persian empire" did you think was a joke?

I hate both sides, it's just that people in here are expecting me to care about palestinians dying.

if this place was full of jews crying about october 7 I would be mocking them too

and i don't magically start caring about arabs because they're christian or something (though this is moronic talking point anyway - gaza is 99% muslim and the persecution of christians by arabs/muslims in the middle east and africa absolutely dwarfs christians dying in gaza

and go away with this "stolen land" crap. Most of the middle east and north africa is "stolen land", but nobody cares because you all want to conveniently say that history only counts after a certain point

and "islamophobic" is propaganda term - you sound like some blue haired tumblr freak calling things that hurt your feelings '-phobic'

 

[SylviaB]

muslims talmbout that "stolen land" shit

then they move to australia and become property investors lmaoooooo

 

[totally_screwed]

dont fucking address me I didn't read any of that

 

[SylviaB]

i think its pretty objective that killing babies, sexually assaulting hostages and blocking humanitarian aid is not humane, regardless of what "cultural framework" you endorse in

so you think the holy prophet of islam was not humane? Interesting!