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Well played.robo-andie said:
Well played.robo-andie said:
No one has ever used anal sex as marriage criteria particularly since not only do not all gay couples engage in anal sex, but it is not a phenomena restricted to gay couples either.bshoc said:Nobody is stopping homos having gay anal sex, however using that as a criteria to somehow suggest a special set of rights for these people is truly laughable. Marriage rights and marriage status aren't accorded to poeple for just paying tax you know.
If it were a reward to people who reproduced then the marriage would be a retro-active benefit which it is not. Instead it is viable for sterile couples, women who have experienced menopause and those who choose not to reproduce...I don't see the logic that states marriage is a government award for reproduction.bschoc said:Its not becuase they pay tax or were born into Aus. society, people do that whether they are married or not, but rather it is the governments reward to poeple who have children and thus make one of the greatest social and economic contributions a citizen(s) could possibly make to the state.
I would say that when people make labels like 'normal' about themselves, then they are participating in the segregation.bshoc said:Most gay segregation however is not due to anything we normal people do, but rather their own insistance on doing so.
Well we can make just as many empty marriages as you, if thats the answer you wish to hear, but considering there is an expectation in our society to marry one you do 'love' then that is a completely valid reason. If you wanted a parallel it would be like being told that you had to marry a man and not to give me any of that homophobic 'but i don't like men' bs.bschoc said:We all live under the same state and federal laws, name one thing I can do that gays cant (and dont give me the whole teary-eyed "marry the one you love" bs, becuase I cant marry men either, not that I in any way wish to).
Since when? I was under the impression that people married each other mainly because of each other, not the children they might have.bschoc said:Its very safe to assume that nearly all marriages are conducted with the eventual aim of children.
Under that logic, why should we not argue that heterosexuality is a social disorder of epidemic proportions?sam04u said:A lack of order or regular arrangement; confusion
An ailment that affects the function of mind or body
There are homosexuals in videogames now? Gosh that seems funny, I'm not sure why but it just makes me laugh *ninja gay kick level up!*sam04u said:I'm getting sick of seeing 'homosexuals' in nearly every movie, on t.v, in video games... it's just way to much.
Wow, you are intolerant.sam04u said:There is no evidence to prove same-sex couples will raise children any differently then regular couples. I just don't like the Idea of a baby being exposed to It. I'm getting sick of seeing 'homosexuals' in nearly every movie, on t.v, in video games... it's just way to much.
Especially, having a young kid taught 'subconsciously' that "It's fine to be a homosexual" and "Perhaps you're a homosexual". It's unfair to children to be under that impression. Homosexuality is a 'social disorder', I've mentioned it before few argued, even fewer agreed.
In my opinion it depends on your definition of a 'social disorder'.
Disorder:
dis·or·der ( P ) Pronunciation Key (ds-ôrdr)
A lack of order or regular arrangement; confusion
An ailment that affects the function of mind or body
ihavenothing said:I wonder what would happen if his best friend or cousin turned out to be gay. That would test his tolerance to the extreme, it is sad when people who claim to be oppressed only oppress others because they have "fixed" beliefs
Homosexuality has no "benefits" as it is not a choice. Simple as that. People can either be gay or straight or bi but it is their choice whether they have sex with men or women, I can say that I am gay because I am attracted to guys and share intimacy with them. This is a free country there is no law to who you can't sleep with as long as its consentual.sam04u said:I also challenge you to prove that homosexuality is in anyway beneficial to society and ofcourse looking at the negative effects of it. (we need babies here in australia so we 'offer a bonus' to women who make a baby, does that make sense?)
formal recognition of one's affections for each other, citizenship, access to each other's bank accounts to register the name of wealth in ( especially for fraud and bankrupcy insurance ), other entitlements you don't receive in a relationship without marriage.bshoc said:Its very safe to assume that nearly all marriages are conducted with the eventual aim of children.
I challenge you to prove that your life is in any way beneficial to society.I also challenge you to prove that homosexuality is in anyway beneficial to society and ofcourse looking at the negative effects of it.
It may really surprise you, but cross-dressing and gender dysphoria are not isolated to homosexuals and there is no direct correlation between someone being gay and effeminate.sam04u said:Basically, I have to deal with something which really shouldn't be a problem on a daily basis. I hate hearing a man acting like a women or seeing it as it defies logic in my books. It's hard for me to accept that 10% of the population is mentally incapable of reproducing with the opposite sex.
Would you be able to provide a logical example showing how the concept of memes is applicable to homosexuality in preference to other current theories?sam04u said:Homosexuality is a Social Disorder and can also be considered as a 'meme' to find out about 'memes' search the 'Does God Exist' thread somebody linked the idea of 'memes'. It basically states that traits which are catchy can be 'mentally consumed' by people and then transpire in their own character. An example of this is the common saying 'Fat Bitches need Love", or alternatively 'Fat Bitchaz Need Lurve'. I don't know who started it but the particular rhythm and meter of the phrase makes it 'catchy' this 'phrase' is repeated throughout society and slowly the idea behind it 'sinks in'. Therefore slowly people see 'fat b**ches as more appealing' it's relatively new but slowly it takes effect. It's much like homosexuality it's a social disorder and the sooner we realise the sooner we'll have a better functioning society.
Hmm, well the world has kinda been overpopulated for a while and will probably continue to be so for some time to come however the effect of homosexuality on population growth either way probably is rather negligible - there simply aren't enough homosexuals. I'd be focusing more on the growing infertility rates, contaceptive use and the HIV/AIDS problem as impeding population growth (if for some reason you were keen to see the population grow).I also challenge you to prove that homosexuality is in anyway beneficial to society and ofcourse looking at the negative effects of it. (we need babies here in australia so we 'offer a bonus' to women who make a baby, does that make sense?) In a country such as china it would probably be 'slightly' beneficial but the rate of occurence is way to high. Perhaps a 3% would be a slightly better figure.
lol, you actually made me laugh. Well done.Not-That-Bright said:I challenge you to prove that your life is in any way beneficial to society.
Ok...Your post doesn't make sense, tell me how exactly HOW i dont understand the fact that homosexuality occurs within society and that homosexuality also needs to be accepted..or these "links" that you speak ofsam04u said:Dora_18, I don't think you see the links between Acceptance and Occurence. I agree with some of what you stated. How would I react if somebody in my family was a Homosexual? Well, I'd joke about it alot (that's the truth) But then again I joke about all things It's how I accept people. If someone in my family had a large head I'd call them 'Big-Head' if they had flat feet I'd call them 'Flipper'.
see and this is what i mean about your ignorance...how stereotypical do you want to be?I hate hearing a man acting like a women or seeing it as it defies logic in my books
You can't seem to fathom that homosexuals want children as well, they can't have them themsevles, but whats wrong with giving a homosexual a baby to raise? Whether gay women produce a baby through sperm donation, or if two men ask a woman to have a baby for them? sure i mean its not an easy procedure but at least you know that those people are willing to go to great lengths to have children, and not everyone is willing to carry a child for 9 months and hand it over ..but...if you ask me its much better then having some heterosexuals reproduce and have children that will be disadvantaged for their entire lives.also challenge you to prove that homosexuality is in anyway beneficial to society and ofcourse looking at the negative effects of it. (we need babies here in australia so we 'offer a bonus' to women who make a baby, does that make sense?) In a country such as china it would probably be 'slightly' beneficial but the rate of occurence is way to high. Perhaps a 3% would be a slightly better figure.
It can apply, there's no real reason to give it preference to say normal genetics ... but even so, I don't see his point? Homosexuals do still have children, there are alot of lesbians as we speak whom are carrying children, in the past lesbians/gays would be forced into hetero relationships and have kids.... You only need to have sex with the opposite ONE time in your entire life to have a chance at having a baby, but in the average lifetime we will have sex many more times.Would you be able to provide a logical example showing how the concept of memes is applicable to homosexuality in preference to other current theories?
Well my point was to essentially try to make him realise there are other considerations than the basic ones that might first come to mind. For instance, freedoms, it is beneficial to society to give people the freedom to have relationships with whom they want because those people make up a part of the society.I don't think that comment is quite inline with the type of discussion that sam04u was putting forward, but you made me laugh anyway.
yeah? well people aren't delighted to meet you either.But as I said I'm not 'delighted to meet them'
well i want people to know that it isnt fine for you to be wondering the streets possessing rights eitherI just want people to know that it isn't 'fine'
im glad that "you guess" and aren't entirely sureI'm not necessarily against bi-sexuals I guess
Well what do you mean by 'fine' ? You're trying to tell us that homosexuality is a mental disease or something are you? Even if it is, it doesn't seem too detrimental to their lives (other than via jerks) so I see no need to combat it... it would be like declaring 'desire to eat cucumber' a mental disease as less than the majority enjoy eating cucumber...I never said we should 'deny them of their rights' or the 'rights of any other people', I just want people to know that it isn't 'fine' it's like a disability and only very few people actually have the hormonal imbalance which constitutes to homosexuality.
But as I explained... they can reproduce and they do.There are feminen men that's common and It's normal but when it gets to the stage where a man can't 'reproduce' that goes against nature.
I don't understand how it can be like a disability when they don't lose any abilities. Also, you seem to believe that there is something wrong with homosexuals because they don't desire reproduction via sexual means... so are you also against asexuals? Is something 'wrong' with them by your definitions?sam04u said:I just want people to know that it isn't 'fine' it's like a disability
uhh...:sam04u said:and only very few people actually have the hormonal imbalance which constitutes to homosexuality. (perhaps 1-2%).
sam04u said:It's hard for me to accept that 10% of the population is mentally incapable of reproducing with the opposite sex.
So which one exactly should be taken as your stance...I'm confused.sam04u said:Perhaps a 3% would be a slightly better figure.
I suppose you extend your hatred to the impotent and infertile as well, then? Or have you only been programmed into homophobia?There are feminen men that's common and It's normal but when it gets to the stage where a man can't 'reproduce' that goes against nature.