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but we can't know if the suspect had mental health conditions that would have prevented him from being given access to a gun in aus?
what if he's got some kind of mental disorder where under australian law he wouldn't be allowed to purchase a gun but he can in the us?
Maybe if he had access to proper mental health care or didnt feel disenfranchised he wouldnt have picked up the gun to begin at all. I mean, neither of those things are guarantees, but they would reduce the risk.
 

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Maybe if he had access to proper mental health care or didnt feel disenfranchised he wouldnt have picked up the gun to begin at all. I mean, neither of those things are guarantees, but they would reduce the risk.
violence has fallen over the past 50 years, has mental health improved over that time? Has inequality decreased?

And are literally a majority of left wing americans "mentally ill"? Because a majority support assassination
 
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Are the countless leftists all over the internet, including apparently thousands of teachers and government workers, are they all "mentally ill"?

If "mental illness" is so common on the left, maybe instead of focusing on "mental illness" you just come down hard on left wing extremist ideology?
 

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Are the countless leftists all over the internet, including apparently thousands of teachers and government workers, are they all "mentally ill"?

If "mental illness" is so common on the left, maybe instead of focusing on "mental illness" you just come down hard on left wing extremist ideology?
wrong chat i think
 

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I should point out, it is a big misconception that the vast majority of government workers are left wing. Political ideologues of both persuasions have this idea of public servants as being people in brown cardigans in an office. In truth, most public servants are engaged in frontline or service delivery roles (in NSW, only 10% of public servants are clerical/administrative/office workers). Those workers have a range of views from left wing to right wing and everything in between. For example, I bet if you were to go to a prison and speak to the guards, most probably arent "snowflake lefties".

Also, in general those that live in the far-right/far-left bubble see all people as fitting into either the left or right of the political spectrum. In Australia, most people dont fall into any one category and support a range of left and right wing ideals. Honestly, most people dont even know the difference. Taking me for example, Im more of a pragmatist - I like things that work and I support a range of ideas from both the left and right. Ive voted for both sides of the aisle over the years.
 

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I should point out, it is a big misconception that the vast majority of government workers are left wing. Political ideologues of both persuasions have this idea of public servants as being people in brown cardigans in an office. In truth, most public servants are engaged in frontline or service delivery roles (in NSW, only 10% of public servants are clerical/administrative/office workers). Those workers have a range of views from left wing to right wing and everything in between. For example, I bet if you were to go to a prison and speak to the guards, most probably arent "snowflake lefties".

Also, in general those that live in the far-right/far-left bubble see all people as fitting into either the left or right of the political spectrum. In Australia, most people dont fall into any one category and support a range of left and right wing ideals. Honestly, most people dont even know the difference. Taking me for example, Im more of a pragmatist - I like things that work and I support a range of ideas from both the left and right. Ive voted for both sides of the aisle over the years.
Also building on this, people support parties out of self-interest as opposed to right/left. Like say the CFMEU, they support Labor but that's mainly because Labor supports the union movement. I dont think many CFMEU members are woke supporters of radical queer gender theory - you find their members would align with the social values of the right/One Nation. For many, self-interest trumps ideology.
 

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