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Inspired/Depressed. A bit of both really. Inspired me to put all i can into my body of work, depressed me because some of the works were so good i was almost daunting! I was a little surprised that 3/4 of the exhibition was cultural based, the concepts were a bit repititive and cliched.
 

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Originally posted by ellebelle
3/4 of the exhibition was cultural based, the concepts were a bit repititive and cliched.
i agree, there was a strong political curatorial agenda. e.g. at AGNSW, there was a palestinian work, and an israeli work placed right next to one another, sooo transparent!

what are you thinking of doing for your major work?
 
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I have no definite ideas. I've tried so many things! I love experimenting and changing, if only the whole body of work didn't have to revolve around the same concept. it's kinda scary knowing all of a sudden it will be due. what about u?
 

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i did the hsc last year, i loved art, and i'd be glad to offer you any help. what have you been doing so far?
 

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Well i did a few works based loosly around consumerism, commercialism, playing on words etc, but its not that original. I've done paintings and prints and etchings on every sort of topic! i just haven't found anything i'm passionate about. I love conceptual art, i get bored when it's too straightfoward.

How did u come to choose what u were doing?
 

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i agree.. there was a lot of cultural based artworks this year and also works which featured text...

Is it me or does the artwork get dark/depressing each year?

maybe because a lot more students are putting in the personal subjective aspect into their artworks...
does that earn u more marks?

the 2oo2 art express helped me to somewhat build upon an idea that i originally had.... i plan to do something which involves abstract work, and textured works.
 

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i also love conceptual art, but i know what you mean about the whole consumerism thematic, sometimes it seems a bit obvious, and it gets a bit tiresome.

i like the idea of "word play" that could be developed into something very interesting, i love puns and writing too.

i think prints and etchings are a great technique to work with, its something that can be done beautifully and you dont see quite so often.

have a look at some of jenny holzer's works, she does some interesting things with words.

I am a bit bias, cos text is very conspicuous in my work.
(its in art express so perhaps you have seen it.)

I just started by playing, and writing, and creating several things that were inspired by my own artistic disposition, everything i made had a rather transient and ephemeral aesthetic, and i mostly played with paper etc.

by work was quite conceptually driven, i identified some concepts i felt passionate about, and read voraciously on them. in fact, my visual diary for the first 2 terms is barely visual, and consists almost entirely of long written dialogues!
 

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Originally posted by silbi
and also works which featured text...

Damn! you make me feel so unoriginal and commonplace! :D


sounds interesting silbi, have you got any conceptual ideas so far?
 

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I like the idea of "word play" that could be developed into something very interesting, i love puns and writing too
Yeah me too! I love english, not the restricted tedious studies we're made to do in school, but creative writing. I think works that incorporate text are really interesting, and it's not really unoriginal because there's so many ways to do it.

I am a bit bias, cos text is very conspicuous in my work. (its in art express, so perhaps you have seen it.)
I only saw the art express exhibition at the NSW art gallery, although i had a look through the Art express book. I'd love to know which is yours.
 

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agh! i go away for a few days and a whole new discussion pops up. :p


hmmmm.

i havent seen artexpress this year (i will though... as soon as i figure out how sydney buses work :)), but last year i remember walking around and thinking "crap. how are we supposed to compete with this?". there were some cool ideas there, but i remember thinking they weren't much use as they were someone else's...

hmm. text is good, i think... i used quite a bit (page 100-- the crashing plane, etc). i'm quite partial to it, but many others won't touch the stuff.

also, don't choose an idea because you think it will give you good marks. choose it because you like the idea and can run with it for a full year. i went through 3 ideas before i got the one i stuck with, and even then it changed and had stuff added to it so much that by the end of the year my orignal idea was just a minor component of the whole collection.

i think the artwork selection is quite possibly getting darker -- looking back over artexpress 97, 98 catalogues there are alot of works about freinds, dreams, etc... these days darker/more cynical stuff does get in. not to rule out the happy things though -- do that if it's what you're interested in.

my work had a sort of semi-unintentional black humour in it, but was overall pretty dark

if you're stuck for ideas, try mindmaps. i found most art people were quite visual thinkers -- draw lines out for your interests, concerns, political, social, personal, religious beleifs, etc etc. my main idea was based on something i didn't even think about in the context of an art major work -- just scribbles and collages for freinds.

work with text: jenny holzer is good, like 1 more says, also perhaps try ben vautier (he did this excellent painting called, and also stating in big white-on-red letters "l'art est inutile; rentrez chez vous." ("art is useless; go home."). tracy emin also uses quite a lot of text, embroided on things ("everyone i have ever slept with" for example, but i'm not really familiar with a great deal of her work) -- and damien hirst, while not really a text-based artist, has great (often convoluted) titles for his works.

perhaps consider text in other feilds: graphic design (for example the designers republic use text as a central element in alot of their designs) -- i have an obsession with instructions (in both text and image), which developed into a habit of collecting signs, labels, and stickers, which i'd stick in my vapd. oh -- try to write/draw/glue stuff/etc in your vapd every day. it helped me make sense of ideas and sort out thoughts and ideas i had during the night/day.

ok
i'm going to bed now
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i love seeing art express, it really inspires me, i especially liked the one about killing whales and that other one with the writting and the eyes, that was awsome!

im doeing my work kinda on reality and how everything around us changes the way we see things, im not really sure wat im doing its just a really vague idea.
im looking into heaps of surreal works like James gleeson and Dali.
Art is like the only subject im actually trying my hardest for, hmmm i should prolly change that huh!?

sorry, im rambling a bit
 

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Originally posted by saladsurgery


i think the artwork selection is quite possibly getting darker -- looking back over artexpress 97, 98 catalogues there are alot of works about freinds, dreams, etc... these days darker/more cynical stuff does get in. not to rule out the happy things though -- do that if it's what you're interested in.

my work had a sort of semi-unintentional black humour in it, but was overall pretty dark

I love black humour, but aside from that, it strikes me as being a wonderfully rare sentiment in hsc artworks.

saladsurgery gives some great advice guys, so take heed.

One thing i actually liked about my work was that it didnt really have a distinguishing mood; it was kind of neutral, detached and direct. Not that it was dispassionate, but it sort of expressed something that just was.

Btw, ellebelle it was at COFA, and was called "repositiory of thoughts" and i know it is customary for people to say this, but nevertheless its not a very good picture. :)
 

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Originally posted by 1 more
saladsurgery gives some great advice guys, so take heed.
pfft. sif.

Btw, ellebelle it was at COFA, and was called "repositiory of thoughts" and i know it is customary for people to say this, but nevertheless its not a very good picture. :)
yeah, i thought it sucked too... no no no j/k, i havent seen it. i'm sure it's very good. must get me a catalogue (or perhaps go to cofa). i, also, would like to jump on the above bandwagon and bag out my work. artexpress? wtf? :)
 

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saladsurgery, your art work rocked. i am such a suck.
and by the by, we all got free catalogue's on the opening night, perhaps you will too? :D
 

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i reckon artexpress is getting a bit cliched in the topics and subject matter.... though i really liked the charcoal drawing of the reflections of the city streets. those were excellent..
 

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yeah i thought the concept behind that charcoal one was great!
i agree though some were amazing, but yeah i agree that some ideas were a bit clichd, they all seemed to be cultural or subjective, every year it seems that half the works were collage kind of stuff, gets a bit boring.
i have to say i enjoyed the films a lot, the farmer one (i forget the name) was great.
i was amazed there was not ONE drawing. im doing a series of drawings.
ugh i am so far behind with my major work!
i like my work to have good balance of both a concept and technical ability, i love using symbols and metaphors.
To everyone who says to stick with what you love, do what interests you and dont do it for the marks, I completely agree. I think most people do art in the first place do it because they love it.
 

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they would have to love it , the scaling is too shocking for them to have any other choice
 
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but i liked this exhibtion, because one i got to go around to national art school, coffa and art gallery of new south and i got a much more broad view. my first tiome at coffa too. =D

also compared to last year, there is more female asian artists. way more than before. and most of the students, went to schools that i had heard of or that i could relate to, which too me was very important considering my schools is not the best of schools.

but my favourite wouod have to be the asian one at coffa. it was a digital media work, orange to red and it was four panels. i love that work. expecially the white markings amde all ova it
 

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