180 mins, 134 questions, 81 sec per question.
Surprisingly, in the whole exam, I was only completely stumped on 1 particular question.
i remember when khorne said similar back in the day…
Fuck the UMAT and medicine.
There are many other ways to make money if it was for the money and I don't want the prestige that comes with medicine. These are the two reasons why people want it so badly. Anything else i a lie. I never wanted to do medicine anyway. Seems like a stupid idea to spend 13 years rote-learning then about 30 years working with disgusting patients before I die. Fuck that... it is only one life I will live and death is inevitable, might as well do something I enjoy.
un.convention.al
Every.
Single.
Year.
For 5/6 years.
Also, med is actually amazing. I <3 it.
Yeah i got stuck in traffic so that completely stressed me out for the whole trip there... may have thrown me out a bit...
Hmmm i dunno the game questions i struggled with, all of the questions around experiments or graphs or 'can it be deducted from the above' i was pretty sweet with. Mainly the games, pick the middle and a couple of the emotional intelligence questions i didnt know the meaning of words for.
Hoping for a percentile of 80 ish so i can get into newcastle. Last year the cut off for Newcastle was suspected to be 59. I got about 50 last year, its just hard to tell if raising my over all score by 10 or so points is a matter of getting a few more questions right, or 30 more questions right...
That's 59 in SECTION ONE
Overall you need 50 in each section
Then your section one score determines whether you get an interview
You also need an ATAR over 94.5
I got the ATAR and my section one score was 61 the first time I tried but I got 48 in section two so I wasn't considered for interviews (the cutoff for section one was 57 that year)
The next year I had the ATAR/GPA and my section one was 76 but I got 47 in section two so I didn't get an interview again
So, it's not just getting 50. :/
You have to get AT LEAST 53 overall and that's only if you get 59/50/50
The section one score will probs go up again this year.
I was a bit disappointed there weren't more problem solving questions like the politician one
thats strange
I thought UMAT were shifting towards more verbal problems solving :/
There were so many last year!
Because the other shit in section one is tested in GAMSAT but verbal problem solving isn't.
My career advisor said that the chances of getting into medicine through alternative pathways are very limited. How true is this? I am freaking out.
my friend doing med with me now
Got a 77 (maybe less) ATAR, did two years of uni (because she did shit in UMAT in year 12 and first year) and got a 6 GPA, a good UMAT, and is going med now
Alternate pathways are fine but it knocks out a couple of uni's and makes it hard for a couple others.
Then why did you do all literature and no science?
I'm personally disgusted when people refuse to be assessed on subjects related to their uni course and get in anyway.
If you aren't good at or enjoy something enough to do it in HS, why are you trying to get in at uni?
Medicine is much a science as it is an art
It's as much about memorising information as it is about
And in undergrad your first 2/3 years is in uni learning science (with hospital every week (or two)) and then 3rd/4th year onwards it's about working with patients and stuff
So you don't need to be the best at science, medicine is more than science.
oh did I say nonverbal when I meant verbal? my bad haha.
Well.
Yea in practice papers its like HEY DRAW UP A MASSIVE CHART AND PUT IN ALL THE POSSIBILITIES for who went to the strip club on saturday out of johnny, maddy, alex, britt, barbara, mitch and michael, if two of them always lie, two never lie, one sometimes lies, one always lies on tuesday and wednesday, and on friday he sometimes lies, and on monday he always tells the truth. lol.
Didnt see any of that today. Which is good. Only simple versions of it.
glad I didn't have to sit today
That's the stuff I'm best at.
And it is SUPER useful in med to work stuff out. Especially during PBL.
In any event, it's mostly a moot point because HSC sciences and uni sciences are very different and divergent. Its kind of like telling a person off for doing Law despite the fact that they havent done Legal Studies.
HSC Sciences and uni sciences are pretty similar, uni is just harder and more maths.
I srsly dont understand how u can be good at something but dislike it. Like wtf.
If ur good at it and kickass against others in competition, HOW CAN U NOT BE HAVING FUN??!?!? BEATING OTHER PEOPLE!??!
Wow…
you dont need hsc bio for medicine at all, there are quite a few differences and all the relevant hsc stuff is pretty much covered in the first two weeks of uni
there is a bit of chem too, but again the relevant hsc stuff is covered easily over a short period of time
HSC Bio does help A LOT though
But you'll also be lulled into a false sense of security in first sem first year. Lol
But pretty much, if you're smart enough to get into med you'll catch-on quickly.
Web Addict - in order to get an interview you will probably need something in the percentile of 80+. I have heard rumours that UTAS is much lower however may be mistaken.
only if you live in Tasmania
Just my two cents, but I think the UMAT isn't a good way of separating potential candidates. It's like the OC (opportunity class) , you can get tutoring and prepare for it until you are quite familiar with how to attack the questions.
After all this practice is done and you are familiar it doesn't really "test" you so much. The UMAT should be unpreparable to really test candidate's "real" aptitude, logic and reasoning.
P.S. that's how my cousin feels towards the umat too (who's a doctor)
if you have the aptitude to learn how the to do well in the UMAT then you have the aptitude to learn how to perform in medicine.
You don't need to be a genius to do medicine, you just need ability (UMAT/GAMSAT), effort (ATAR/GPA), and the right interpersonal skills (interview).