japanese only thread! (1 Viewer)

[kouri]

Originally posted by jogloran
kouri-san, shokyuu (beginners) bakari shiteiru kuse ni, nihongo wa kekkou igai ni jouzu desu ne!

eeto... chotto wakaru kedo.. "kuse ni"te "igai" te wa dou iu imi??
joglaran sempai oshietekudasaiii

eeto.. minna, arigatouuuuu
kono zembu de wa anime kara naratta yo sono ue ni, nihongo ga daisuki dakara sa

minna, hsc ni ganbare yo

 

[Lexicographer]

eigo de "igai" wa "more than", "above" da

 

[jogloran]

'kuse ni' to iu no wa 'no ni' (although) to onaji imi desu.

 

[*~Dazed~*]

min chi pa la kon to wa sa kuse to in mwa kon i chi wa ta ma lakpa???????????????????????

 

[kouri]

Originally posted by Lexicographer
eigo de "igai" wa "more than", "above" da

Originally posted by jogloran
'kuse ni' to iu no wa 'no ni' (although) to onaji imi desu.

futaritomo arigatouuu!

itsumo "kuse ni" te kiita kedo wakaranakatta, demo ima wakatteiru yo...
ureshhhhhiiiiiiiiiii ano atarashii koto wo naratta no

 

[jogloran]

yaku ni tatsu kotoba da kara sa!

 

[karnevil]

I'll break the Jap cycle here (sorry) and say that using "kuse ni" is a clever trick to impress the markers... the same as using "yotei" instead of "tsumori", am i right?

 

[jogloran]

Actually it's got different 'shades of meaning' or nuances to simply 'no ni', but pretty much

 

[mle]

kono 'posts' wa yakuni tatsu noni eigo o hanashite wa dame dayo!

 

[karnevil]

hahaa wakatta gommenne

 

[kouri]

Originally posted by jogloran
yaku ni tatsu kotoba da kara sa!

>< eeto..mata..wakaran...
yaku ni tatsu???

and i'll break the jap cycle thing too here.. haha..
i thought 'kuse ni' is more informal and casual...or a bit more rough??

kedo sa.... moshi nihongo no kiku no koto wo renshuu shitai kereba,(how do i say this sentence so it makes sense if it doens't?) kinokuniya no nihon no tokoro ni iku yo

kinou, itta kinokuniya no nihon no tokoro ni takusan nihonjin ga itta(?) (imashita) soshite, minna wa nihongo de hanashita node, ii renshuu da to omou! haha

 

[*~Dazed~*]

king cha wa tlapma kino kinatska millopi renshuu penshuu tenshuu uski mistlier itta milta kon i chi wa ta ma ka de hanituank!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[mercury]

mina san wa nihongo ga jouzu desu ne! koko de nihongo de shaberu koto ha raishuu no shiken ni ii renshuu da tomou kara, tsuzukimashou.

watashi mo ima nihongo no fukushuu no tame ni takusan anime mimasu. mina san wa donna anime wo mimasu ka? saikin inuyasha to iu anime wo hajimete mite, daisuke desu. itsu owaru kana...

de wa, mina wa ganbatte ne! shikkari benkyouu shi nakucha!

 

[jogloran]

zokugo-darake no anime yori, nichijou no nihongo kaiwa o tsukatte iru anime o mita hou ga ii to omou. to iu wake de, aru anime no kyara ga hen na nihongo o hanashi, sou iu iikata de benkyou shite wa chotto fusawashikunai ne...

 

[Lexicographer]

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yaku ni tatsu = "is [of use, helpful]"

REMEMBER "tatsu" is a VERB (stand - tachimasu) and must be treated as such. A bit late for the speaking exam, but don't write "yaku ni tatsu" in a letter full of desu/masu. :uhhuh:

edit: shit! look what happens when you've been learning how to write Hindi all afternoon

(fixed - next post is correct)

 

[mercury]

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"kyara" to iu no wa nan desuka. sate, zokugo wo tsukau anime ha tabun bunhou ni tsuite benkyousur no ni fusawashikunai desu ga, takusan atarashii tango wo benkyou dekite ii to omoiumasu.
jogloran san ha donna anime wo miru no ga suki desuka.

"yaku ni tatsu" ha eigo de useful, be of help da to omou kedo...

tonikaku, minasan ha shiken no tame ni junbi ha dou desuka. ganbatte ne!

 

[kouri]

uwaah...

zen zen wakkanaaaaaaiii @_@

eeto eeto..haha...
atashi ne... iro iro na anime ga suki daa yoo naaa

inuyasha no beginning wa ii dakedo, episoodo 60-70 kara wa warui to omou... sore ni, saishin no episodo wa 126? to omotte, mou nagasugi yo..
dakara atashi wa... mou yameta.

ima naruto to tennis no oujisama wo miteiru no

rurouni kenshin wa atashi no ichiban suki na anime da.
RK wo mitenakattara, SUGU mirou yo! mochiron, hsc no ato de...

Originally posted by jogloran
zokugo-darake no anime yori, nichijou no nihongo kaiwa o tsukatte iru anime o mita hou ga ii to omou. to iu wake de, aru anime no kyara ga hen na nihongo o hanashi, sou iu iikata de benkyou shite wa chotto fusawashikunai ne...

ano...??
is that saying anime uses informal/slang language therefore... somethign something using it is bad? or...? @_@
well if thats what you said haha
then..

sou janakute..eeto.. soujanai to omou.
anime de, zokugo to iro iro na language, "formal" mo aru kara... iisu yo.

soshite, mercury san wa ..iu tori da. takusan atarashii tango wo narau koto ga dekiru kara, soreni anime ga... omoshiroi janai?

 

[mercury]

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hai, sou desune. inuyasha wa chotto nagasugi na node, dondon omoshirokunakunaru deshou. ni shuu mae ni anime wo mihajimemashita kara, inuyasha to azumang to fruits basket shika minakatta desu. HSC no ato de iroiro na anime ga takusan miru tsumoridesu.

Jogloran's saying that some anime with too much slang are not good, as compared to the ones with formal conversation. For the exam it's true, but you still learn heaps of vocab. After the exam, I think we need to learn more slang, afterall, nobody sane would talk like a book in everyday conversation...ͣ

P.S.

my mistake, i should've said "tango ga benkyou dekite"
Use "ga" with "can form" of verbs.

 

[Lexicographer]

Mercury, do you know which encoding you used? Shift-JIS (the standard) didn't work, but EUC seems to come close. Could you tell me how you input your Japanese so I can make a recommendation to standardise? It's a pain to switch encoding

 

[mercury]

i'm using windows XP, on my comp, it appeared that shift-jis is closer... hmm
hen desu ne... anyhow, i input using microsoft ime standard