Yeah, Baulko people! Disgusting. Mods, close this thread now!Uni said:THANK FVCK THAT'S OVER!
i am amazed this thread is even open. all this talk of cocks, guns, fights and baulko people...... lazy ass mods
Uni/.
Four: Quote the person you're arguing with so we know what the hell you're going on about.Monday99 said:Hey dick,
One: Learn how to spell argument before abusing someone.
Two: Does it make you feel big to be able to demonstrate how some can shift the focus of their argument as it goes along? Is that not an indication of someone who is actually thinking and developing their line of thought without completely changing sides?
Three: Learn how to spell argument.
As we said, the number of pages shouldn't really come into it as the size of people's handwriting varies greatly. I got onto the 11th page, but only had around 950 words.Peter Ashwell said:I agree with Atticus, economy of expression is extremely important to English. I find it hard to beleive that all of you guys that wrote more than even 5 pages for the essay could have kept your ideas concise and organized, and answered the question. What Atticus meant when he said it was unlikely you would find a band 6 sample answer longer than (10?) pages is that the English markers appreciate those people who are able to express their ideas in half the time that others take. It is a skill to English like any other analysis or literary device.
What was found objectionable was the smug and arrogance you exhibited simply because you wrote a lot, as though this was a critical feature of a band 6 response. We wish to express our belief that this is not the case, but rather that economy of expression combined with good understanding and analysis deserves a higher mark.
I found it hard to beleive that the person who claimed to be coming first in a "top 25 selective school" in English confused possessives and verbs. Perhaps he was just being facetious, but this seems unlikely as he was being quite aggressive.
Module B said:Four: Quote the person you're arguing with so we know what the hell you're going on about.
Look back to the first person Atticus responded too, they set some insane page number AND he/she claimed to have small to medium handwriting, which means that the idea that she/he was writing only three or four words a line is bunk.Module B said:As we said, the number of pages shouldn't really come into it as the size of people's handwriting varies greatly. I got onto the 11th page, but only had around 950 words.
For arguments sake, if you can write at that astronomical rate, it is possible to have considered your argument prior to actually writing your response. We all have reading time and have to do question one. If you did that first, then you could easily have planned your answer to question three and known exactly where you were going with it.Harry Flashman said:Michaeln36, he misspelt argument twice on the last page.
Obviously people who claim to have written 5,500 words- 9 000 words in two hours are either full of shit, wrote complete waffle or are Stephen Hawking with a fully functioning body. You simply cannot write such an astronomical rate non stop with no time to construct or think about your argument unless you're writing shit.
What we find objectionable is your automatic assumption that because one idiot decided to come and show off, you decide to write off anybody who writes more than a certain page number as if they are probably be waffling. Who the hell are you guys to make such an assumption? You're going by a reasonable line, but if you looked at the first attacks of Atticus and so forth, he was just asking us to come up and whup his ass. Just because it's beyond your capability doesn't mean it's not possible. If somebody else chooses to gloat about it, then rebuke that person alone. You start making sweeping generalisations then yes we will rise up against you.Peter Ashwell said:I agree with Atticus, economy of expression is extremely important to English. I find it hard to beleive that all of you guys that wrote more than even 5 pages for the essay could have kept your ideas concise and organized, and answered the question. What Atticus meant when he said it was unlikely you would find a band 6 sample answer longer than (10?) pages is that the English markers appreciate those people who are able to express their ideas in half the time that others take. It is a skill to English like any other analysis or literary device.
What was found objectionable was the smug and arrogance you exhibited simply because you wrote a lot, as though this was a critical feature of a band 6 response. We wish to express our belief that this is not the case, but rather that economy of expression combined with good understanding and analysis deserves a higher mark.
I found it hard to beleive that the person who claimed to be coming first in a "top 25 selective school" in English confused possessives and verbs. Perhaps he was just being facetious, but this seems unlikely as he was being quite aggressive.
I don't really see what that has to do with what I said, but whatever.Harry Flashman said:Look back to the first person Atticus responded too, they set some insane page number AND he/she claimed to have small to medium handwriting, which means that the idea that she/he was writing only three or four words a line is bunk.
in my case, this is unfortunately very true.Atticus Ryan said:Anyone who wrote more than one booklet for any question is retarded.
The point of an English exam is not to write and write and write and write buckets and buckets of tripe (which is all it is possible to do if you are writing 34 pages in an exam like some of you retards did). The point of an English exam is to convey your ideas succinctly, logically and with quality of expression.
I sincerly apologise, i forgot we were talking about "coherant high level argument" when i saw u putting people down for writing lots in a hsc exam followed by followed by many references to balls, dicks and how incredably smart you are. Being smart and being able to score high marks in exams are two extremely different things, sure being smart helps but it isnt neccessary. If you were truly smart you realise that the most people who dont score as well as you in exams probably also dont have you confidence in their ability and so if you go around telling them right after an exam they might have been feeling good about that what they did could have been detrimental itll probably have a negative effect on the rest of their exams.Atticus Ryan said:I am not saying that no-one who writes over 10 pages will not do well. I am saying it is not necessary. I guarantee you that the Board of Studies exemplar answers, however, would not include responses of over 10 pages as this is redundant, wasteful and stupid. Before you requote some of your "favourite" parts of what I am saying, perhaps you should actually read what I am saying and take it into account.
What you have said brings nothing to this discussion. It is not an argument. It is nothing. You are wasting space, time and oxygen in existing. Your witty sarcasm in calling me "modest" is understood - my goal in those comments was to incite others on the board to explain to me how they achieved similar goals by writing 16 pages in an essay as opposed to 6. Please, someone tell me how.
And as for "making friends"? Well being able to argue to such a high level must surely get you marks in English exams! I simply have no comeback to this well-thought-out, critical evaluation of my personality. I am not on this board to make friends, for the simple reason that this board contains people like you. Grow a dick.
As for crazedmo2003, of course quantity matters to some degree. 2500-3000 words is OK. I am talking about idiot people who claim to write 30-50 pages in this exam. I am more than happy to pit my UAI against those who write huge amounts in English exams. My confidence and "superior mental prowess" stems from the fact that I am in fact more intelligent and knowledgeable than most of you on this board. The day that people like Talnoy are able to come back and laugh in my face is the same day that people like sando begin to be able to recognise sarcasm on the Internet. It's a pretty tricky skill, so I am confident that that day will never come. Suck my balls.
Here is my argument, how about someone who isn't a retard like Talnoy tries to argue with me.
It is not necessary to write ridiculously large amounts in an exam to get a good mark. In fact, it will be detrimental to your mark is it is impossible to sustain a coherent and high-level argument if you are writing constantly without time to think.
There it is. How about some people who aren't total morons? I am beginning to doubt the existence of such people on this message board.
Ahaha thats funny shitModule B said:"Learn to conjugate verbs and use punctuation you assholes."
Where's the fullstop? Dickhead.