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A particle of mass 1kg moves in a straight line with velocity v against a resistance force equal to v[rt [1-v^2]]. the displacement, x, of the particle from a fixed origin O is initially ero and its velocity at that time is R.

show that x= arcsin [R[rt [1-v^2] - v[rt [1-R^2]]
 

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A particle of mass 1kg moves in a straight line with velocity v against a resistance force equal to v[rt [1-v^2]]. the displacement, x, of the particle from a fixed origin O is initially ero and its velocity at that time is R.

show that x= arcsin [R[rt [1-v^2] - v[rt [1-R^2]]
The resistive force gives you the equation of motion which is:

acceleration = v(dv/dx) = -v&radic;(1 - v<sup>2</sup>)

dv/dx = - &radic;(1 - v<sup>2</sup>)
dx/dv = -1/&radic;(1 - v<sup>2</sup>) then integrate w.r.t. v to get

x = cos<sup>-1</sup>v + c ... when x=0, v=R so c = -cos<sup>-1</sup>R

x = cos<sup>-1</sup>v - cos<sup>-1</sup>R then do the inverse trig thing

sinx = sin(A - B) where A = cos<sup>-1</sup>v and B = cos<sup>-1</sup>R

sinx = sinAcosB - cosAsinB = R&radic;(1 - v<sup>2</sup>) - v&radic;(1 - R<sup>2</sup>) by doing all the triangle stuff

&there4; x = sin<sup>-1</sup>(R(&radic;(1 - v<sup>2</sup>) - v&radic;(1 - R<sup>2</sup>))
 
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a = -v Sqrt (1-v^2)

vdv/dx = -v Sqrt (1-v^2) (v's cancle out)

dv/dx = - sqrt (1-v^2)

dv/ Sqrt(1-v^2) = -dx (integrate both sides)

sin^-1 (v/1) = -x +c

x=0, v= R

sin^-1(R) = c

.: x = sin^-1(R) - sin^-1(v) (put both sides in sine function)

sin x = sin [sin^-1(R) - sin^-1(v)]
sin x = sin(sin^-1(R))cos(sin^-1(v)) - cos(sin^-1(R))sin(sin^-1(v))
sin x = Rcos(sin^-1(v)) - vcos(sin^-1(R))

now if u draw a right angle triangle, with v being one side, 1 being the hypotenuis, and thefore the last side is Sqrt (1-v^2)
thefore, cos(sin^-1(v))= Sqrt (1-v^2)
so...
sin x = RSqrt (1-v^2) - vSqrtSqrt (1-R^2) then inverse the sine fucntion

x = sin^-1[RSqrt (1-v^2) - vSqrtSqrt (1-R^2)]
 

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whoa nice!
ummm say F=ma=m[v rt [1-v^2]]
why do you have to put a negative i would of thought the forces balanced them all out?

Btw, you guys going to pwned tomorrow aren't ya?
 

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Napoleon said:
resistance force equal to v[rt [1-v^2]].
since its RESISTED force, it means that the force is in the oppisite direction.
it doesnt say that it already has a force on it. so this is the only force and is slowing it down.

kfunk will own, i will pass... (hopefully)
 

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antwan2bu said:
no, like 60-70ish
60-70 is what i get, (hopefully i don't make silly mistake in 1st 2 questions)
you should be like 90+ atleast
 

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antwan2bu said:
kfunk will own, i will pass... (hopefully)
Haha, yeah, except for the fact that I got nothin' when it comes to circle geometry and conics. Those two topics, along with my stupid mistakes, kill me.
 

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any of you dudes want to help me with some miscellaneous questions privately? i.e. via msn or google chat
 

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I would if I had the time at the moment (HSC and whatnot). If you're cool with posting your questions on the board then there are more than enough people to tackle them. I geuss right now the board is good because we can be selective in what we do.
 

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yeh ok, hit me up, whats ur email. im usually always on.
i hate circle geometry, biggest bitch, conics im still workin on. hard 3 unit is whats going to fuck me up
 

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Vertically:
Ncosө-mg=F; F=0 (no frictional force)
Ncosө=mg (1)
Horizontally:
Nsinө=mv²/r (2)

(2)/(1) gives tanө = (mv²/r )*(1/rg)
rgtanө=v²
v=√(rgtanө)

ii) {not too sure about this part because I really suck at this lol}
When x=√(rgtanө)
Nsinө=mgtanө
N=mg/cosө [magnitude]
Now i'm stuck :p
 

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The first part is bookwork - no friction
Draw the diagram

Where A is the banked angle
NsinA = mv^2/r
NcosA=mg

N=mg/cosA

mg/cosA=mv^2/rsinA
v^2 = 2gtanA
v = sqrt rgtranA
 

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For the second part, do you assume friction to have a direction and then try and find magnitude? Or it is something to do with the fact that for small angles tanA = SinA?
 

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your the beast =P not me, thanks for doing on
is it easy for you?
mind helping me with a few more?
 

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