BSc means UNEMPLOYMENT, true or false? (1 Viewer)

[Bacilli]

ah bs

 

[Graney]

Another point worth making is that a BSc (or BA, or most other bachelor degrees) completed with stellar marks (HD and D) may open some job opportunities in consultancy or government positions. But these positions are usually more about what kind of marks you have, rather than what bachelors degree you have.

I have a hypothesis that, in general no one will give a shit about what marks you receive after uni, and of significantly greater importance is any other experience or higher qualifications.

 

[AliceR89]

I'm starting a B.Sc majoring in Zoology this year. There are many wildlife sanctuaries and 2 Zoos near me (well, sort of new) so I believe I have a fairly good chance of finding a job. But you never know, I may study further when I graduate.

 

[undalay]

80% employment because Bsc people like further study.

 

[RogueAcademic]

I have a hypothesis that, in general no one will give a shit about what marks you receive after uni, and of significantly greater importance is any other experience or higher qualifications.

You're right.. if all you want is a job stacking shelves at the local supermarket. But if you look at the websites of management consultancies like Bain & Co and Boston Consulting, you'll see that they specifically ask for graduates with academic results in the top 5%-10% of their graduating class. Law firms have been known to ask for the academic results of fully qualified lawyers with 5 years professional experience years after completing their law degree.

It all depends on what career you're after. Marks matter to some, but are crucial for other job applications.

I'm starting a B.Sc majoring in Zoology this year. There are many wildlife sanctuaries and 2 Zoos near me (well, sort of new) so I believe I have a fairly good chance of finding a job. But you never know, I may study further when I graduate.

If I could go wind back the clock and go through my undergraduate bachelor degree again, I'd do zoology. Having a zoology background will open up many opportunities for you all over world. Have you thought about what area of zoology you'll major in?

 

[doink]

Do Civil E, it has the most girls, or biomed.

 

[Graney]

You're right.. if all you want is a job stacking shelves at the local supermarket. But if you look at the websites of management consultancies ... Law firms have been known to ask for the academic results

This threads about bachelor of sc which I was obviously referring to.

 

[boris]

Pharmacy will get you employment for sure and a descent paid first job, but you will need to do further study if you want to succeed in that field.

Haha. Actually grad Pharmacy students get paid shit, especially in their first year out of uni. They work as a Pharmacist in training while they sit the board exams.

You know who gets paid more than a pharmacy graduate?

Primary school teachers.

 

[RogueAcademic]

This threads about bachelor of sc which I was obviously referring to.

Your comment is actually more relevant for the non-BSc graduate, the biggest example being BComm graduates. Academic results for a BComm graduate are important to score an interview. Experience gained over the next few years will begin to play a larger role.

Generally speaking academic results are crucial for a BSc graduate because it will determine whether you get into honours. After honours, potential employers will always ask for academic results. Academic results is also crucial for the BSc graduate if they want to take the next step up in their career when applying for a PhD project. After acceptance into the PhD project, academic results again play a crucial role when trying to score scholarships to get you through the PhD. And so on.

Either way, whereas you merely implied without mention of the BSc, I expressly referred to the 'BSc' in my post:

Another point worth making is that a BSc (or BA, or most other bachelor degrees) completed with stellar marks (HD and D) may open some job opportunities in consultancy or government positions. But these positions are usually more about what kind of marks you have, rather than what bachelors degree you have.

And in case you missed it, my pasted paragraph above about the BSc specifically refers to a potential career with the management consulting companies mentioned in my pasted paragraph below, where your BSc academic results are crucial in getting you through the first hurdle of gaining an interview:

You're right.. if all you want is a job stacking shelves at the local supermarket. But if you look at the websites of management consultancies like Bain & Co and Boston Consulting, you'll see that they specifically ask for graduates with academic results in the top 5%-10% of their graduating class. Law firms have been known to ask for the academic results of fully qualified lawyers with 5 years professional experience years after completing their law degree.

It all depends on what career you're after. Marks matter to some, but are crucial for other job applications.

My comment about law firms was an example where academic results continue to play a role in your future career.

 

[GarethTKD]

You can get a pharmaceuticals representative job with a drug company. Most require a B. Sc. Salaries range between $60-80K. Basically you just visit GPs/Specialists and tell them how great a particular drug is, and give them some nice pens and post-it notes. The training is provided by the pharmaceutical company.

 

[Captain Gh3y]

Do Civil E, it has the most girls, or biomed.

false!

that would be chemical sir

also, about half of all biology graduates are TEH GIRLZ ^^

 

[doink]

lol

 

[jb_nc]

^ engineering is where all the fugly guys hang.

This, and the fact that you're a gook/slaphead, means you'll be right at home in engineering.

Couldn't decide which slur to use so I settled for both.

 

[Azamakumar]

This, and the fact that you're a gook/slaphead, means you'll be right at home in engineering.

Couldn't decide which slur to use so I settled for both.

hhahahahahaha

 

[Slidey]

There are plenty of jobs for BSc.

Biotechnology is one of the biggest industries in the world. Not sure about in Australia.

Chemistry is the basis of many industries and overlaps with chemical engineering. It wouldn't be hard to find a job in pharmaceuticals, agriculture, water treatment, food production, cosmetics, etc.

Physics is very quantitative, so even if you don't get a physics job, you'll get a maths or finance job.

Maths is similar: it overlaps with anything quantitative or abstract, such as finance, physics, quantitative chemistry, computer science.

Computer science is similar to maths: it sets you up for a massive array of jobs, because computers have become so ubiquitous in industrial life. The dotcom bust in 2000 barely put a dint in the growth of this industry; it was like estimating that IT would grow at a rate of $y=e^(2t) when it was only growing at a rate of $=ye^(t).

But yeah, the rank of what gets you the most jobs is probably roughly:
Computer science = Maths = Statistics > Physics = Chem > Biology

Oh, and geology is a special case. It's higher than all of them because of oil and mining.

 

[boris]

dude, it just depends what you major in and how well you do
a BSc majoring in nothing gives you as many employment prospects as being bottom of the class in a law degree.

oh and another thing you can major in with BSc is psychology.

 

[whitey1]

There's a ton of jobs for BSc qualified analytical chemists out there. If you don't mind being a glorified button pusher you'll be set.

 

[Forbidden.]

I want to do a BSc, but people keep telling me that my prospects of getting a job after uni are pretty much nil.

I also know several people who have graduated from doing a BSc and have not been able to find jobs in their field and thus have resulted in working at Kmart/Coles fulltime.

So, is it true?

You're thinking of an Arts degree, go for it.

 

[Deadhead]

If you want employment, think about BSc majoring in Agriculture. In a recent study (can't remember who by) it was found that in Australia there are around 800 tertiary Agriculture graduates a year and around 2000 vacant jobs in this field. Everyone is crying out for agronomists in almost all major cropping districts because people do not want to leave the cities. People will make fun of this post and come up with some incredibly witty remark about how ag is only for dumb people, or comment on my spelling or whatever, but I suppose those of us who graduate with BSc (Agriculture), BAgSc, BRurSc etc will be the ones laughing when we walk into jobs while law/arts/commerce/whatever graduates are struggling to get noticed above the other several thousand people with the same degree as them.

For anyone interested, Ag science is in no way not a real science. I'm in first year and have so far studied chemistry, biology, maths, statistics and two general conservation/ management units, as of next year I'll be getting into Biochemistry, genetics, nutrion, soil science etc. (I'm in a 4 year course). It can be fairly full on, but if you are willing to put the effort in it will pay off no end.

Thats my little spiel for Agriculture, but I reckon any science degree will get you somewhere, at least its not arts or law

 

[Templar]

Agree with the posts on taking up a quantitative major.

Unless you want to continue with research in your field, BSc is not about the knowledge you learn during uni, but rather the problem solving and logical deduction skills you pick up in your degree in science. This opens up a wide range of fields you can work in (provided you can get the marks), in fact you can even work in a big four accounting firm, or in fact any financial or consulting institute in the world. It is much easier to get a BSc graduate to learn about commerce than a BCom graduate to learn about problem solving and quantitative analysis.

However, you should do honours. I know a few people who went to Macquarie Bank after their normal undergraduate degree, but they had stellar marks and could have very easily gone on to achieve 1st class.