Asquithian was right. (1 Viewer)

[Sweets]

meh age makes every1 consevative anyway

 

[Not-That-Bright]

It's not "age", it's life... once u get older, have more responsibilities, want a more secure lifestyle (like your own) for your family...
alot of people become conservative.

If you never have family etc i'm sure u can stay fairly liberal.

 

[Not-That-Bright]

It's not fear of change, convervatives are willing to make necessary changes.
Some conservatives feel that abortion is murder, not wanting to make abortion easier isn't a matter of them being scared of change, it's a matter of them disagreeing on the issue.

It's not about "me first", it's about being in control of your own life and the decisions you make, its about ultimate freedom. A Conservative can be compassionate, they give a % of their earnings to various charities, or they choose how to contribute to society.

Liberals (not howard's Liberals), generally like to make alot of bold statements and put in place programs which cost alot and are ineffective. They are often more worried about the 'meaning', than the 'result'.
The UN is a good example of this.

 

[Not-That-Bright]

Well i'm glad you brought up the issue about donating money.
Liberals often like to throw money at situations, like dictators, humanitarian problems etc. Conservatives are more likely to get on the ground and actually do things...

Greed is an aspect of it, but i could argue that the entire concept of social welfare for liberals is the same as u described with donations. They simply want to give them money because it makes them feel better.

BTW, what's wrong with having a house 3x too big for you? You remind me of the people bitching about GW Bush's inauguration costing 2x their initial donation to the tsunami. The next week there was the oscars, which would of cost alot more than bush's inauguration, the dresses diamons etc etc etc... where was the complaints about that?
Are you going to live in a house that is the bear minimum to live in?

 

[Generator]

BTW, what's wrong with having a house 3x too big for you? You remind me of the people bitching about GW Bush's inauguration costing 2x their initial donation to the tsunami. The next week there was the oscars, which would of cost alot more than bush's inauguration, the dresses diamons etc etc etc... where was the complaints about that?
Are you going to live in a house that is the bear minimum to live in?

I think the point is that there is no need for someone to live beyond their financial means and/or physical needs just for the sake of appearances. In all likelihood that interpretation is wrong, though.

 

[Not-That-Bright]

Well yea, i think i've studied this before...
there's differnet levels of need... ur first tier is usually stuff like "air, water", second is health,shelter, & food third is family & friends, and fourth is luxury items...

 

[elisabeth]

Well i'm glad you brought up the issue about donating money.
Liberals often like to throw money at situations, like dictators, humanitarian problems etc. Conservatives are more likely to get on the ground and actually do things...

Greed is an aspect of it, but i could argue that the entire concept of social welfare for liberals is the same as u described with donations. They simply want to give them money because it makes them feel better.

BTW, what's wrong with having a house 3x too big for you? You remind me of the people bitching about GW Bush's inauguration costing 2x their initial donation to the tsunami. The next week there was the oscars, which would of cost alot more than bush's inauguration, the dresses diamons etc etc etc... where was the complaints about that?
Are you going to live in a house that is the bear minimum to live in?

I guess I'd be one of those people who wasn't thrilled with how Bush's inauguration was double the cost of their initial donation. But that doesn't mean I support the bloody extravagence of the oscars and outlandish events like that either.

 

[Not-That-Bright]

Well what are you doing on the internet elisabeth?! you don't need the internet! come on, give up your internet access and instead donate that money to the tsunami victims!!
While you're at it, are you wearing clean, new clothes? quick go trade them for some older, crappier clothes because the money could go to the tsunami victims!!

While we're at it, what are all these musems for? cinemas etc? they're just useless capitalist crap we should get rid of them so we can fully focus on giving money to the needy, because smaller better planned options just won't work.

 

[Xayma]

Does anyone know if Manning turns over enough to keep it open after VSU?

It probably doesn't make a profit now, but if VSU was enacted it probably could. Of course I have a feeling many events there would become more expensive for both members and non-members of the union.

 

[walrusbear]

Does anyone know if Manning turns over enough to keep it open after VSU?

thankfully i think the usyd union is pretty rich, so my guess is manning will still exist with VSU in place

 

[Persephone87]

Everyone enters university as a Marxist and the smart ones leave it Private-Capitalist.

 

[Persephone87]

Not that I myself particularly agree with the way the Howard government has embarked on things precisely, but its endeavours in the past couple of years has had humanitarian interests. War in Iraq, Tsunami efforts etc.

If you want to say "Oh, why hasnt it signed the Kyoto Protocol?" - it doesnt need to, it already has one of the lowest emissions for a highly industrialised country.

This is just to take a random example. Im sure you can argue many points against, In fact I am sure you will, but this is just some of my observations.

I myself am quite open, but when you say that older people are 'scared' into voting liberal as they get older I find that misleading...the same could be assumed for younger citizens voting labor because it caters more to student welfare etc.

Besides, if you examine Labor and Liberal, they are both basically right wing, just one has a left slant. Sometimes it is very difficult to distinguish the differences, because they both hold similar stances on many areas.




EDIT: I myself like Socialism the most idealistically, but in practice I am conservative.

 

[Not-That-Bright]

Not that I myself particularly agree with the way the Howard government has embarked on things precisely, but its endeavours in the past couple of years has had humanitarian interests. War in Iraq, Tsunami efforts etc.

If you want to say "Oh, why hasnt it signed the Kyoto Protocol?" - it doesnt need to, it already has one of the lowest emissions for a highly industrialised country.

This is just to take a random example. Im sure you can argue many points against, In fact I am sure you will, but this is just some of my observations.

I myself am quite open, but when you say that older people are 'scared' into voting liberal as they get older I find that misleading...the same could be assumed for younger citizens voting labor because it caters more to student welfare etc.

Besides, if you examine Labor and Liberal, they are both basically right wing, just one has a left slant. Sometimes it is very difficult to distinguish the differences, because they both hold similar stances on many areas.




EDIT: I myself like Socialism the most idealistically, but in practice I am conservative.

Per capita we have high emissions.
Kyoto is an expensive program that at most would delay global warming by 6 years (if every country was to conform to the rules exactly starting the date it was enacted).
There are better ways to spend our money..

I see asquithian, so it's ok for museums to hang paintings in over-the-top frames, in huge buildings that are much larger than what is needed in most cases but it isn't ok for someone to buy themselves a big house?

 

[Not-That-Bright]

Asquithian we gave them half a billion dollars AND another half of no-interest loans...

 

[Persephone87]

sounds like an oxymoron.

 

[paper cup]

After checking out the newspapers etc, at uws... i have discovered something.. I'm REALLY on my own being on the right in university.
Thoughts about this topic?

Asquithian is always right.
there was an article in smh about arts students at usyd being led into leftist thinking by their course.

 

[withoutaface]

Asquithian is always right.
there was an article in smh about arts students at usyd being led into leftist thinking by their course.

And of course you wouldn't oppose this either, would you my 'socialist' friend?

I consider myself to have taken elements of both sides to create my cynical view of the world

 

[paper cup]

And of course you wouldn't oppose this either, would you my 'socialist' friend?

I consider myself to have taken elements of both sides to create my cynical view of the world

lol I'm not a socialist, you know that...I thought the whole trotsky thing was just...a shame. I should change my cs :S misleading, that

 

[withoutaface]

lol I'm not a socialist, you know that...I thought the whole trotsky thing was just...a shame. I should change my cs :S misleading, that

There are plenty of worse ways to die...

 

[paper cup]

There are plenty of worse ways to die...

yes but I'm sure trotsky would disagree.