ADSL/Router/Network ?? (1 Viewer)

[disco_dave]

Welcome all computer minded... to the point!

I am about to have ADSL installed in my house and i have 4 computers. i want to hook these 4 computers up to the ADSL, i have already a Hub and the cabling. Also on one of my computers i have 2 network cards (NIC).

So do i need to buy a Router or can my computer with 2 NIC's share the internet connection into the hub and the other computers feed off the HUB??

Also how hard is these two systems to set up?? I have no had alot of networking experience... only linked a few computers around a hub before.

Thanx in advanced for everyones help!!!
disco or dave

 

[sunny]

The hub itself doesn't share the internet connection for you - you need a router for that kind of thing. The hub simply connects the computers together.

If you want to share the net, you can:

1) get a router (simple solution, probably more expensive)
2) Turn on Window's own Internet Connection Sharing function. The computer that the modem is connected to will need to be connected to switched on for the other computers to access the net.

 

[fatmuscle]

the router will cost you
ICS won't

other than that, what sunny said

 

[disco_dave]

ok, so its is easy to do the internet sharing through windows??

i think i might do that, but one of the computers is a Mac (boo boo.. yes i no its dads). im wondering if i can do that through my windows sharing the connection?!?!

 

[sunny]

Originally posted by disco_dave
ok, so its is easy to do the internet sharing through windows??

i think i might do that, but one of the computers is a Mac (boo boo.. yes i no its dads). im wondering if i can do that through my windows sharing the connection?!?!

Never tried, but can't see why not - it should only be a matter of duplicating the network settings that are in your other computers....unless ICS does something weird/windows-proprietary.

 

[fatmuscle]

yeah, MAC has it's own network settings, somewhere in the system folder.

all you have to do is type in the same stuff you ahve typed in for the windows IP settings. (except the actual IP ofcourse)

Gateway, DNS, Subnet Mask

 

[fatmuscle]

http://www.practicallynetworked.com/sharing/

or even better:
http://www.practicallynetworked.com/sharing/mactcp.htm

 

[disco_dave]

yeh that is exactly what i am after!! YAY

and also wat do you reckomend as a firewall program? i think i had a trial of zonealam and i thought was pretty good.

does Norton have a good virus/firewall/overall computer security program?? all in one...

cheers again

 

[disco_dave]

another question, how do i find the IP address of the ADSL modem out??

i have searched the box but with no success.

 

[sunny]

The IP address of the ADSL modem is assigned by the ISP when you log on.

 

[fatmuscle]

do a tracert in dos
probably the 2nd IP address after your computer

Firewall Q:
Zonealarm is good
the notron firewall will probably be bulky

 

[disco_dave]

Originally posted by fatmuscle
do a tracert in dos
probably the 2nd IP address after your computer

may sound stupid... but how is this trace done??

also does every computer have to have the ADSL software installed on it??

you guys have been great!! thanx so much

 

[fatmuscle]

if you have win2k/XP
Start > run > type in 'cmd'

if you have 9x
Start > run > type in 'command'

once your black box opens, it'll give you:
C:\> or C:\Documents and Settings\...\>

type in [tracert www.boredofstudies.org]
*note, everything between and not including the [ ]

should give you a list

 

[Protector]

ICS
- To Windows
Follow the Prompts.

- To Mac OS
Open your System Preferences.
Create an Ethernet account (if no networking is setup)
Set the GATEWAY to the IP Address of the Windows Machine with ICS enabled.

To Find the IP Address
- For NT/XP/2000
Start > Run > CMD
- For 9X/ME
Start > Run > COMMAND
THEN
ipconfig

Get the IP address. Make sure the SUBNET MASKS ARE THE SAME, otherwise your network will not function correctly.

This is the method I have previously used to setup networks with ICS.

Hope this helps.

 

[fatmuscle]

ipconfig /all


btw, is that setting up networks with Win as host and Mac as client?

setting up Mac on network is pretty simple if you have all the details
Panther is sexy

 

[disco_dave]

Ohh i love this place, that should hopefully be enough to get me on the road... thanx so much lads and ladies (or whoever).

 

[fatmuscle]

btw, is ur power turned on?