The war in Gaza has finished. Should pro-Palestine protests be cancelled and pro-Palestine activist groups finally disband? (3 Viewers)

[yhea]

No lasting and secure 'peace deal' is going to come from the unilateral brokerage of Israel and the U.S (ESPECIALLY Trump's America where Gaza is essentially looked at as an investment project). Israel has continued to expand its settlements - the number one barrier to peace - in the past when such 'interim deals' have been reached (e.g Oslo Accords). Not to mention that this ceasefire is not at all certain; Israel has broken over 1000 ceasefire agreements, and their mission of 'dismantling Hamas' will likely continue to be a code word for the slaughtering of civillians as it has throughout this whole genocide. The only factor fuelling antisemitism is Israel's actions itself. Also, no one likes you and you stink.

 

[sethdonno]

There’s no need to protest for Palestine anymore now that the war has finished. Their presence on uni campuses and city streets has been unsightly and annoying at best and divisive and strongly antisemitic at worst. I think the activist groups should now disband and all the rallies should be cancelled. Posters should be taken down and normal life in Australia should resume. Any further pro-Palestine protests will only fuel antisemitism, hate and pro-terror sentiment.

To state that the presence of protests is annoying and unsightly is so borderline fascist, its your and anyones right as a citizen in australia to protest for or against anything PEACEFULLY (despite what chris minns wants). The purpose of protests is to disrupt to try and push for change. For the amount that people are complaining about cost of living, house prices and the attitudes of politicians right now, there should be more protests if anything.

For what you state regarding antisemitism, I can assure you that the vast majority of pro-Palestinian advocates are not antisemitic, just anti-Zionist (and don't equate the two, Zionism was originally pushed for by christians in Europe to try erase all Jewish peoples from the continent). Everyone should have the right to live in their place of birth, or parents or even grandparents, but that does not mean that you can kill other people for trying to do the same. A vast majority of Israelis moved there following the Holocaust, which is fair - if my religion had been targeted across a whole continent with seeming acceptance, I would try and get out too. But the issue arises regarding the involvement of Arabic states in treaties and agreements, hence the 6 Day War and Yom Kippur War, and the vast majority of failures should be placed upon Western powers and the leaders of the Zionist movement who warped it from a movement for a Jewish state to a movement for another colonisation of the Middle East.

Furthermore, your final sentence "Any further pro-Palestine protests will only fuel antisemitism, hate and pro-terror sentiment." is just inherently wrong. To argue that protests for the independence of a state fuels the hatred of others, especially in Australia's current social context where Nazis are literally being platformed by all news medias including the ABC, is so wrong. If anyone is fuelling antisemitism, hate and pro-terror it is the neo-Nazis confidently walking through our capitals, enabled by the police and spouting hatred on the basis of race. If anyone is fuelling hate in our nation it is the persistent failures of our governments, current and past - Labor and Liberal, to protect civil rights and support our nation as it grows.

Your focus upon Palestinian protests, and Zionist protests for that matter, should not exist. Its only impact upon you is that the news features it far too much as it gives them opportunity to foster hatred and therefore attention and the impact that all protests have. Maybe having to drive an extra 10 minutes to avoid the protest. And if that is what is necessary to ensure that we as Australians maintain our civil rights, than that is what will happen


Also, as a footnote, criticism of the Israeli state has been determined in Federal Court not to be antisemitic, as it is criticism towards a state - not the religion of Judaism (Wertheim v Haddad [2025] FCA 720; see the attached file - specifically page 66 of the PDF).

 

[sethdonno]

So you advocate for the destruction of Israel?

Israel is a country of social progress and technological innovation and advancement. The only democracy in the Middle East.

Palestine is a place of terror, hate, disorder and violence - whether that be violence towards Israelis and Jews or indeed violence of the terrorist Palestinian governments like Hamas towards their own Palestinian citizens - and it has always been like that well before the war. People like you bring shame to our country.

First sentence is just immediately false. You claim that they are a country of social progress. Israeli government was literally found to enact "governmental and legal discrimination against non-Jews and non-Orthodox streams of Judaism" in a 2009 US Department of State. The fact that the nation literally designed to prevent the discrimination of individuals based upon their status as a Jew has been found to discriminate systematically against Jews is insane. Also, how can you claim that they are a nation of technological innovation and advancement when they persistently deny their possession of nuclear armaments despite photographic evidence leaked by Mordechair Vanunu, who had been a nuclear scientist for Israel.

Discussing Vanunu, is a state that removes a whistleblower's right to travel, speak to foreigners, be within 500m of a border or airport, be within 90m of a foreign embassy, use a phone and internet without being monitored and move and meet people without having to notify authorities really a democracy? Vanunu was literally taken from Australia in a honeypot operation where he was lured to Israel after having sought Australian citizenship.

I should probably go back to studying English now.