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Hey everyone, so I'm planning to do a Diploma in Business at Western Sydney University via The College next, which doesn't even require an ATAR. I've applied for their True Rewards program to do the course since they just need any board-certified subject PASSED as a condition for making an offer based on Year 11 Results - and I'm assuming it's practically guaranteed that I'll get an offer in their November intake (I applied 2 days ago) since I had mostly Bs, one C and one A in my Year 11 subject reports, according to the NESA Students Online website. I intend to major in Human Resources Management upon completing the Diploma and gaining entry into the Bachelor's degree, and would like to pursue a career in Human Resources.

For the record, I come from a Top 50 selective high school in NSW and have done relatively well on all of my trials and internals - I'm actually tracking for an 80-82 ATAR based on those marks, according to the UAC ATAR Compass.

(I'm middle rank for most subjects, slightly above for some and slightly below for others - except Modern History, where I'm ranked 18/21. I do only humanities, HSIES, and English - including Extension 1 - though). Personally, I'm more than fine with this, despite the fact that it isn't exceptional in anyway.

Unfortunately, for the last two weeks I came down with a terrible case of the flu and post-viral pneumonia, which left me bedridden until only two days ago. During this time, I was unable to complete any meaningful study preparation for the HSC external exams. I struggle with chronic depression and anxiety which has flared up because of this episode (exam stress), and brain fog is making it incredibly difficult to retain any sort of content in my head now as I prepare with the little time I've got (I didn't do much preparation before that, which is totally on me).

I've toned down my expectations for the exams so much that I actually expect to score a Band 2/3/4 result on most of the exams (I'm genuinely that befuddled). However, for certain subjects (particularly Modern History and History Extension) I'm quite concerned that I may score below 50% on the externals, which would technically count as a Band 1 result (0-49).

In fact, I listed some hypothetically awful results (35-50% in EVERY subject - not something I'm even close to risking but rather just to calm myself down) into the UAC ATAR Compass and I'm still eligible to receive an ATAR - albeit a pretty horrendous one (in the mid-40s). One of my other major struggles is actually finishing exams during timed conditions, which occasionally means that I do not complete the final section of some longer exams - or worst case, end up having to leave a section totally blank (very rare).

I'm confused because somewhere like the University of Wollongong makes offers to students with ATARs as low as 30 (27, infact) for their Diploma of Business course - which would undoubtedly require a Band 1 result in one or more course assessments (i.e. Assignments, Trials, and HSC finals). But at the same time, having an ATAR would mean that they "satisfactorily" completed at least 10 units of board-certified coursework, including the external finals and thus - got their HSC Certification of Completion. I only do 10 units, so this is particularly affecting for me if I mess up.

Basically, I've done some extensive research on what NESA counts as a serious attempt and non-serious attempt. It appears as though I should fare fine, but I'm really worried and would like to ask if anyone knows whether getting a Band 1 in some of the HSC externals would prevent me from receiving the HSC Certification of Completion? I really hope this isn't the case - because in the worst possible outcome, I may end up getting one or two.

If anyone knows, and has any advice, a response would be greatly appreciated.
 

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I think you’ll be fine since u go to selective and u did good in internals. Dw you’ll def get at least 70+
I'd love to believe you on this because that'd mean that I'd get straight into the Bachelor of Business itself. I'm not concerned about my internals performance or the ranking of my school because that's all well above the required standard.

But my worry is about whether a Band 1 performance (even if it means finishing the paper with a really bad result) in the external HSC finals for a subject or two would prevent me from being eligible to receive my HSC Certificate of Completion. It would be pretty senseless though if that were the case because then all the people with an ATAR in the 30s / 40s doing a diploma somewhere would've received their HSC with an overall Band 1 result on most, if not all, of their courses.

Perhaps someone like @jimmysmith560 would be able to provide clarification. Of course, if anyone else knows (or would even like to provide an educated guess or anecdotal evidence) I'd be more than happy to hear them out.
 

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I'd love to believe you on this because that'd mean that I'd get straight into the Bachelor of Business itself. I'm not concerned about my internals performance or the ranking of my school because that's all well above the required standard.

But my worry is about whether a Band 1 performance (even if it means finishing the paper with a really bad result) in the external HSC finals for a subject or two would prevent me from being eligible to receive my HSC Certificate of Completion. It would be pretty senseless though if that were the case because then all the people with an ATAR in the 30s / 40s doing a diploma somewhere would've received their HSC with an overall Band 1 result on most, if not all, of their courses.

Perhaps someone like @jimmysmith560 would be able to provide clarification. Of course, if anyone else knows (or would even like to provide an educated guess or anecdotal evidence) I'd be more than happy to hear them out.
Dw u won’t get a band 1. Like even if u fail depending on how well ur subjects scale you can get band 3s and 4s. U can’t get a band 1 unless u get like less than 10/100. Also even if u get 40s in the externals ur 80-90 marks will average out to 60 or smth so you’ll be fine
 

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Dw u won’t get a band 1. Like even if u fail depending on how well ur subjects scale you can get band 3s and 4s. U can’t get a band 1 unless u get like less than 10/100
Nahhh that's the thing though because a Band 1 is actually anywhere between 0 - 49 on an exam. But then people with an ATAR below 45 wouldn't get their HSC based on how the UAC ATAR Compass is projecting things + the ATAR distribution PDFs on the UAC website show ATARs all the way down to 30 and below.

Basically if a 40 on an external were a non-attempt, I could potentially not get my HSC. But people with ATARs of 30 - 45 exist, and you need to get your HSC certificate to be eligible for an ATAR. Hence, the confusion-
 

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Nahhh that's the thing though because a Band 1 is actually anywhere between 0 - 49 on an exam. But then people with an ATAR below 45 wouldn't get their HSC based on how the UAC ATAR Compass is projecting things + the ATAR distribution PDFs on the UAC website show ATARs all the way down to 30 and below.
I thought u could get ur hsc as long as u dont get n awards. Also even if u get a 49 you’ll only get that if u get like a raw mark of 10. Cause raw marks of 49 like in math adv for example align to a 71 hsc mark I think
 

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Nahhh that's the thing though because a Band 1 is actually anywhere between 0 - 49 on an exam. But then people with an ATAR below 45 wouldn't get their HSC based on how the UAC ATAR Compass is projecting things + the ATAR distribution PDFs on the UAC website show ATARs all the way down to 30 and below.
Like there is seriously no way u can get a 45 atar going to a top 50 selective school. Even if u didn’t study u clearly have the intellect to he much higher
 

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I thought u could get ur hsc as long as u dont get n awards. Also even if u get a 49 you’ll only get that if u get like a raw mark of 10. Cause raw marks of 49 like in math adv for example align to a 71 hsc mark I think
I don't do any of the maths or sciences lmao. I do Eng Adv, Eng Ext 1, Modern History, History Extension, Legal Studies, and Studies of Religion 2U. All of them except the two extensions have pretty bad scaling.
 

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They don’t scale thattt bad. Check rawmarks.info
Hmm yeah no I've checked and I shouldn't get a Band 1 unless I get like 20 marks total on a subject (which I'm positive there's not a single subject I could possibly pull of a, err, *feat* like that on). Still, kinda worrying thing because I think I'm gonna get like 35 marks totals on my modern externals.
 

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Hmm yeah no I've checked and I shouldn't get a Band 1 unless I get like 20 marks total on a subject (which I'm positive there's not a single subject I could possibly pull of a, err, *feat* like that on). Still, kinda worrying thing because I think I'm gonna get like 35 marks totals on my modern externals.
moderns not an easy exam so there would be enough people getting in the 30s and 40s to make that a band 2 or 3
 

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You’ll get ur HSC no matter ur stay. As long as u complete ur 10 units and hsc min stds
Yeah I've got to because WSU early entry is insanely easy and like I should get an offer in November based on my Year 11 results. Literally just gotta pass everything to make it. Even if that means getting a band 2 result on something.
 

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moderns not an easy exam so there would be enough people getting in the 30s and 40s to make that a band 2 or 3
A mark in the 20s, or one the 30s or 40s? It seems like the latter would scale up to a Band 3 at least (based on the raw marks database). The former would probably still pull you up to a band 2 (fingers crossed).
 

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Yeah I've got to because WSU early entry is insanely easy and like I should get an offer in November based on my Year 11 results. Literally just gotta pass everything to make it. Even if that means getting a band 2 result on something.
No u can literally get a band 1 in everything, a mystery mark and still get ur hsc
 

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A mark in the 20s, or one the 30s or 40s? It seems like the latter would scale up to a Band 3 at least (based on the raw marks database). The former would probably still pull you up to a band 2 (fingers crossed).
And HSC marking is pretty reasonalbe in the low range, like it's far easier to turn an 8/20 into an 11/20 than it is to turn a 17/20 into a 20/20, so as long as nothing goes actively wrong in the exam room and you do a little bit of revision on key facts in the time periods
I think you'll be fine
 

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I mean surely right? Because a 35 ATAR with a HSC must mean that someone got a band 1 in something and still got into their diploma (thats wild). What do you reckon?
Yeah cause u just need to complete ur 10 units and get ur hsc min stds which u did in year 10. Like it doesn’t matter abt ur marks
 

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And HSC marking is pretty reasonalbe in the low range, like it's far easier to turn an 8/20 into an 11/20 than it is to turn a 17/20 into a 20/20, so as long as nothing goes actively wrong in the exam room and you do a little bit of revision on key facts in the time periods
I think you'll be fine
Yeah like I've taken a look at the samples that were between the band 2 and band 3 range on the nesa website and it seems pretty flipping easy to produce something like that. Like there's not a single date or statistic in there. Just some names and a narrative retelling in pedestrian English. No shot I fail (unless I progressively lose braincells as the next 2 weeks progress).
 

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