- May 6, 2004
Fuck that shit, I'm suck of junkie drugged up cunts making my life a hell at work.
Sympathy level zero.
Sympathy level zero.
Relationship between Adolescent Marijuana Use and Young Adult Illicit Drug UseThe significant positive tetrachoric correlation indicates that adolescent marijuana use is associated with young adult illicit drug use.
MJA 2003; 179 (8): 399-400According to recent estimates, crime costs the community $32 billion annually. Of this, $1960 million is directly attributable to drugs, and, if indirect costs were included, the proportion attributable to drugs would be higher.1 Clearly, interventions that target potential risk factors for crime, such as drugs and mental health problems, will have significant payoffs for individuals and the wider community. However, the relationship between drugs and crime is complex. Policy development in this regard needs to take into account the multifaceted nature of the problem.
You sound exactly like all the good young muslims, who are all 'omg, I can't believe you drink alcohol, you'll fuck up your life, drinking is so risky, don't go to schoolies, I had a friend who got drunk on the beach and almost raped'.^CoSMic DoRiS^^ said:It probably comes down to the individual in regards to the effects it will have on you, but if you know the risks, and you still do it, you're a retard. Maybe nothing will happen to you, but you're taking a big gamble with your own health. I just don't understand why anyone with a brain would do that. Oh wait, all the pot you smoke rotted your brain cells. Silly me.
lol muslims.Graney said:You sound exactly like all the good young muslims, who are all 'omg, I can't believe you drink alcohol, you'll fuck up your life, drinking is so risky, don't go to schoolies, I had a friend who got drunk on the beach and almost raped'.
You're right of course. It is bad. Definetly will do more harm than benefit to your life. For a young man, taking up a serious daily smoking habit is not putting yourself on the happy path to success and profit. But most of the things I like involve some major risks.
If we lived by statistics, I'm in a much higher risk of physical peril going out on the town on a friday night, that shit will get you killed.
It's a very low risk. Certainly, cannabis as a singular cause is not sufficient to cause mental illness.
Okay retard.blakegman said:I just wrote a big comeback to a lot of bad shit said in here about pot but i just cant be fucked.
If you are stupid enoughto label someone a retard for smoking pot, then i think you have pretty much described yourself.
I cbf, but look up any research paper anywhere. There is a lot of doubt and contrary research, but at worst "all of the recent research into this issue has found that cannabis is neither necessary nor sufficient to cause schizophrenia by itself" (quote from source below). Cannabis use may help precipitate mental illness in those with a predisposition, and may enhance psychotic symptoms.^CoSMic DoRiS^^ said:do you have any evidence to back up your claim that cannabis as a singular thing won't cause mental illness?
Are you serious?^CoSMic DoRiS^^ said:the effects of alcohol wear off pretty quickly and don't leave you with any lasting damage? (remember i am not referring to the minority who drink themselves to death/liver failure)?
Slidey made a lot of good points.^CoSMic DoRiS^^ said:...the people i know of who smoke pot, though, seem to be stoned all the time. And its not always funny. which is another reason i don't like it.
you make a fair point. i know i'm not being very morally consistent and i apologise for that, and i also know that i've probably been wrong or ill-informed about some aspects of the argument (again, sorry). i really just had an issue with people who jumped down my throat with "oh but alcohol bla bla bla", as if the fact that there are other unhealthy drugs out there makes any argument against a specific one void. of course comparisons are going to arise, which is fair enough, it just seems to me like some people are leaning on those comparisons to try and justify their marijuana use or accuse me of being overly narrow minded, which is a little stupid...i mean, i might not have made a great judgement about the effects of pot on your mental health, but the fact that it'll give you lung cancer regardless still stands. i'm not a complete retard. the only thing i have to go on here is the people i know that use it and what it appears to do to them. i'm not a scientist or a doctor. but i don't need to be either to figure out that if it came down to a choice between alcohol and pot, i'd choose the former. i don't drink that much.Graney said:Oh, I strongly agree it's bad. It may have negative impacts on many aspects of your life, social, academic etc... Definetly not appropriate for everyone.
If that's all this thread is supposed to be about, then there's no real debate is there?
But naturally this thread goes far beyond that, into all aspects of discussion including legalisation.
Naturally comparisons with the other legal drugs come up, and the huge hypocrisy of the current prohibition.
How can we discuss the question "is smoking weed bad", without relative comparison to other potential options and life choices? Good and bad is a relative thing, and I don't think in this case we can easily put it into the "absolute evil" category, any more than alcohol and ciggarettes.
I think for moral consistency if you're opposed to legalisation of marijuana you should oppose legalisation of all drugs.
Nah, you do have a point about mental health, but you're way off on cannabis and lung cancer.^CoSMic DoRiS^^ said:I mean, i might not have made a great judgement about the effects of pot on your mental health, but the fact that it'll give you lung cancer regardless still stands.
If you're worried about cancer, the latest research is suggesting as little as 1 or 2 drinks a day may raise your risk of bowel cancer by up to 10%. 2-4% of all cancer cases are caused by alcohol. You don't need to drink much to put yourself at risk.^CoSMic DoRiS^^ said:but i don't need to be either to figure out that if it came down to a choice between alcohol and pot, i'd choose the former.